And He Ran

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  Reasons For My Not Posting Much Here Now

  by flipper in

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  not that i really owe an explanation for anything to anybody.

  or if anybody is that concerned .

  i understand and respect that simon had to do what he had to do - for reasons he explained.

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  And He Ran

  What is the link to the reasons that this site is closing down please? If it's closing down, I'll miss it.
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  The tipping point

  by JeffT in

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  from wikipedia: "the term tipping point describes a point at which a slow gradual change becomes irreversible and then proceeds with gathering pace.

  it is derived from the metaphor of a rigid solid object being tilted to a point where it begins to topple.".

  has the watchtower reached such a point?

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  And He Ran

  Are you sure that active JWs actually look at websites and chatrooms such as this? They're banned from looking at such sites, don't forget, and JWs are very obedient folk by and large...
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  What Do You Like Least About The JW Religion?

  by minimus in

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  for me, i think it's that they are 100% intolerant.

  even if they are espousing an erroneous view and it is pointed out to them why they are incorrect, you would be "running ahead" if you still did not support the error until they state that a change in viewpoint has been made!

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  The closed minds that refuse to listen to anything that vaguely resembles a negative thought about Watchtower doctrine.
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  How long did you stay active after having major doubts?

  by jambon1 in

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  for me, i had doubts from the beginning.

  however, my 1st major doubt came as i had it confirmed that other people felt like i did about certain big issues within the org.

  there were many, i realised, that just knew things were not right.

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  About ten years. It isn't easy leaving though, when it's so ingrained in you and when all your family are JWs. I do view it now as ten years wasted though, wish I'd left at 20 instead of 30.
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  Why does guilt often remain so long with those who've left the JWs?

  by And He Ran in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i would be interested in getting people's input in why so many jws - including me from time to time, though less so now - seem to be burdened by guilt after they've left, even after they've successfully faded and aren't being hassled by family or elders.

  is it a residual leftover of the indoctrination over the years?

  i welcome your comments.

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  And He Ran

  Thanks for all your postings and thoughts - very interesting, as always.
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  Why does guilt often remain so long with those who've left the JWs?

  by And He Ran in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i would be interested in getting people's input in why so many jws - including me from time to time, though less so now - seem to be burdened by guilt after they've left, even after they've successfully faded and aren't being hassled by family or elders.

  is it a residual leftover of the indoctrination over the years?

  i welcome your comments.

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  And He Ran

  I would be interested in getting people's input in why so many JWs - including me from time to time, though less so now - seem to be burdened by guilt after they've left, even after they've successfully faded and aren't being hassled by family or elders. Is it a residual leftover of the indoctrination over the years? I welcome your comments.
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  Why is today the only day of the year when I feel guilty?

  by And He Ran in

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  why is today the only day of the year when i feel guilty about having left the jws?

  it's memorial day and i didn't go.

  my last memorial was in 2006. last year was my first non-attendance.

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  Belatedly, thank you all for your postings and thoughts which contained some great tips and ways of looking at the situation. You were a great help. I just could not put my finger on the reason exactly on why I was feeling guilty. I think that with time it will get easier and I will feel less guilty. The phrase "you are slapping Christ across the face" comes to mind that some JW used a few years ago about non-attending the Memorial. I am sure that I didn't need to be at that Hall on that night to show honour to Christ. There are other ways.
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  Why is today the only day of the year when I feel guilty?

  by And He Ran in

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  why is today the only day of the year when i feel guilty about having left the jws?

  it's memorial day and i didn't go.

  my last memorial was in 2006. last year was my first non-attendance.

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  Why is today the only day of the year when I feel guilty about having left the JWs? It's Memorial Day and I didn't go. My last Memorial was in 2006. Last year was my first non-attendance. It felt like such a final "break" from all ties with the JWs, a final severance of all emotional connection with them and their way of life. All my family are JWs - parents, brother, aunts, uncles, cousins, grans. Why is today the only day of the year when I feel so guilty, sitting here at 10pm staring at the full moon outside, reminding me of what day it is? I would welcome your thoughts!
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  What was the "point of no return" for you?

  by B_Deserter in

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  was there a point in leaving the organization where you did something that demonstrated that you had officially made your decision to leave?

  for me, i think it's going to be when i vote in the general election this year.

  it will be my first action in public against jw doctrine.

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  My first Christmas, aged 30, not knowing about what Christmas was like in the outside world.

  Walking into the polling booth in 2005 to vote for the first time ever. I felt like I actually taking part in a democracy for the first time in my life.

  But mainly it was not going to the memorial in 2007, for the first time, three years after starting my fade. After that I think my family gave up on any slight glimmer of hope that I was just going through a "glitch" or a "rocky patch". It was not easy and I felt really guilty at the time, but I do feel liberated now from it all, just about...
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  Went to a JW "funeral" on Saturday

  by Dorktacular in

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  my brother called me late on the 13th to let me know that a friend of ours - who is no longer a jw - called him and said that his dad was being flown by helicopter to the hospital because he collapsed at home and had no pulse.

  they took my friend's dad off life support on valentine's day and he died.

  well, i was debating whether or not to go to the funeral because i have no desire to hang around a bunch of jws or set foot in a kindumb hall again.

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  And He Ran

  So true, they're recruitment drives, JW funerals, I went to one last year and it made my blood boil, there was hardly anything said about the person who'd died or what he had done in his 84 years on this earth.

  How come the Witness funeral is the same in England as it is in the USA? Do they all use some sort of template?